orange blood

I mean this isn't the first time i've asked her out to do something(i think i've previously said this in my first post, if not I apologize). First time we were really out away from school was just by chance, as I was going to this fair thing with a friend, and she ended up coming along. She had asked me to dance, but I declined as I just can't dance. She danced with the three other guys(the only other people there) there instead, and by this time I was a little jealous and just ready to dance with her uncaring for how ridiculus I coudl possibly look, but then one of those group dance songs came out when we got to the dance floor, and then after that, we just headed out. So really missed a chance there. Second time(about a month later), she had asked me to take a lunch break with her at this volunteer thing. So we did. We spent an hour break when we only got 30mins. That was really fun as she ate off of what I bought and we just were able to talk and laugh.(Then ever since at school we'd usually have lunch together the days we had lunch the same time, with me and her going into the line together and mostly again just eating off my plate) 3rd time(about a month later), I asked her to do something with me over thanksgiving break. Here she had asked if it would just be the two of us, and I said yeah. We hung out for like an 2 hours. She said she had fun. She was also trying out her new camera, and took alot of pictures. 4th time(month later, what a pattern), she asked me out to a movie. Already described this one I think. It was just us. (oh and she has given me home-baked goods thrice this school year, once for my own birthday. It was very, very good.) And now as one part of the pattern(her then me then her then me asking), I've asked her to coffee(and of course another winter-related activity). I think it's just time that I should tell her. I somewhat feel that if it's dragged one any longer, that anything we may have had may just go to the wayside.

Not really looking to create a "spark". I think the "spark" may already be there, just one of us needs to make a move. Though I'm mostly sure of this, it could all be a figment of my imagination.

We talked on a variety of subjects like we always do, and I would have considered it a good talk. When I'm talking with her, it's hard not to have a good conversation. The only times it's not is when we've talked just on everything('cept the aforementioned) and then there's the silence. i've invited her to have coffee with me(because i haven't had it in ages and she could show me the ropes as to a good coffee) but she was busy today(and then I myself had plans made for me today, so I wouldn't have been able to go either way). I think we shall have that cup in a week or so though. In this more conversation setting(rather than a dark room where conversation can be distracting to others around), I think I will tell her.

Warning: This was mostly typed yesturday, before ShySoul's post.(Computer crashed late at night, and I just thought I'd get soem sleep rather than try and post it) --------- I went in blind without any real advice I thougth I could put to use, and as such nothing really happened. We were even in her car for a good 20minutes alone after the movie just sitting and talking, and I just kept trying to get myself to start the conversation of me liking her and what have you, but I didn't. Before I knew it I was at home realized the almost wasted opportunity. But now this is only making me pressure myself to tell her the next time I see her(in person). I guess the probelm with all of this is we know each other pretty well on a friends level. I know all of her probelms, dreams, and drama, as she does mine. Though I've only gotten a hug from her once months ago, we're kinda close, hard to describe. I know her just as well as anyone else, now there's just really another side of her I wish to get to know. With christmas coming up, I don't think i'll get to see her until afterwards. And then I hope to ask her out again, and maybe then finally tell her how I feel and just plainly(though she desveres much more) ask her. It's just driving me insane not knowing. I just wanna go in there having something to say because if i don't have it pre-planned, then I will get tongued-tied and maybe lose my courage. ---------- I don't know what I was going to say afterwards. But now that i've read ShySoul's, I wish that is how it would've played out. I was too pre-occupied trying to ask this thing and talking about other things with her, that I should've just been blunt with her and told her I liked her. Then maybe seen how she reacted and just wing it from there. Now I won't see her in person for maybe a week or two. Next time we're just alone talking I guess I will just have to show some fortitude, and just say something along the lines "I've been trying to find the best way to tell you X, but I think the only way i can tell yo is 'I like you'". Right now sounds not right, but after playing it in my head a bit it shall tweak to something better.

In the course of life, people grow a part. I used to be as close to a best friend a person could be to one of my friends. We shared alot from the joys to the non-joys. And then we slowly drifted a part. But it wasn't exactly unexpected. We were two different people who somehow collided in one improbable event. We shared few things in common yet shared alot. It was weird like that. And now we aren't exactly as close as we once were. But if I'm ever feeling down, she's right there for me.....listening to about everything. And if something's going wrong with her, I'm still one of the first to know to the point her "best friends" must ask me about it. We just have that weird friendship. It was strange when I first realized that even though I did not consider me and her to be as close as we were, we were still there for each other like we were or even more so. She had been having a rough week, and I had gone to this little movie night thing at a person's youth group, and most of her "best/good friends" were there and they had turned to me to try and figure her out. That was a real "whoa". All this time I thought me and her had fallen to the wayside, and headed in total opposite directions, and somehow through it was like we were still at that collision. Dare to say even better friends than before.

Usually...but not always......

If i was Canadian and 20, i would've swore I was " StrcPrstSkrzKrk1903". I feel you exactly. Like last week, this girl, who hugs everyone like it was going out of style, was saying bye, and then when it came to me she just waved. I find this in her to be annoying as she even hugs people she just met 2 secodns ago. I have gotten hugs from her before, but not on a constant basis. It's not just her, there are others, but this is just one of those things like a billionaire billions of times over handing everyone a million they see and just skipping you. You not really suppsoe ot feel bad cause it wasn't your money to choose who got it, but everyone in the world did(or at least in your world) and it just amkes you feel excluded.

Some guys are just more reserved and un-sure of how the girl think of him. He doesn't just want to put his all out there just to be hurt once again. I think he likes you and is just scared to make the first move. If you want him to make the first move you're going to have to hint more that you like him. Everyone grows up different while a otuchy-feely person may seem the norm ro you, to tohers it ma just seem weird at first. Like me, the instant I meet someone I can't just all of a sudden be close to them. It takes me alot of time, I think because it just doesn't naturally occur(my family's not that close, us giving another one of us a hug is one of the signs of the Apocalypse).

I can defintely make her laugh, and she can always make me crack a smile even when I don't want to. Sitaution is different than Diablo7000, he simply asked a girl out, and then i guess it went on from then. I've asked her out(to do something) and she's asked me out(to do something), but so far they weren't the "oh, would you like to go out with me" implication of bf/gf. I guess at the best/worst they were "friend dates". I need help in forming the right words to ask her to be my girlfriend(without saying "do you want to eb my girlfriend?" necessarily. Maybe someone can post an example conversation on how they did it or happened to them. Maybe also the situation around it.

Question: How exactly does one ask a girl "out"? I'm not asking "oh how do i work up the courage to even talk to this girl" as it's not entirely difficult talking to her, as I always want to talk to her. More looking what to say/ask to go from whatever we are, to this "boyfriend/girlfriend" thing. I find it easy to open up to her about other areas of my life, andshe herself has told me various things about her own. But somehow this is just very difficult. I am a somewhat shy and reserved person, who has trouble expressing sometimes what I feel. I can certainly be out-going when i want/need to. I've just never done this, have no experience. Simplying saying "so, do you want to be my girlfriend" sounds stupid and makes me want to reject msyelf. A girl just asked me to go to a movie with her(it was online). Assuming it's going to be just us, at first she invited me to go with her and this guy(who has a gf), but something came up and we had to re-schedule. Now we're suppose to go in a few days, and I mostly think it'll just be me and her. It's already kidna weird to try and "ask a girl out" at a place where one should've already asked another out before even going. Just semantics maybe. ---- backstory: Um I am in high school, last year there. Ok see there's this girl. I started talking to her almost a year and a half ago. We really didn't start talking about anything "real" until a year ago, and since then we usually talked in the class periods we had and online. When this school year began we had only one class, and it's one where paying attention is almost mandatory to get the material, so not as much talking. I had asked her to do something over the Thanksgiving break, and she actually said yes, and even asked if it was just going to be us two(which it was and she was cool with). We had fun(I know i did and she said so). Sh even took pictures. I don't think it would counted as a "date" though. We've hung out twice more before this outside of school. Three months ago with like 3-4 other people, and two months ago with just us during a lunch break at this volunteer thing(we stayed out for an hour, and only we're suppose to get 30mins).

I have the same "curse". If I'm talking to anyone, I can usually remember what they say. And then i'd usually bring it up later. BUt I've never seen it as a "compliment" they always seem to be more like "ok...." and freaked out that I remembered something they said they don't even remember saying. So I've slowly tried training myself to turn off the "bring it up part". Makes me go crazy sometimes having to hear almost the exact same conversation, and other times just gives me a reason to keep talking or listening to them longer which keeps me at peace(of course depending on who the person is, you wouldn't know how many times I've played with a girl's bracelet and then ask a question i already know the story to just to hear her speak to me). Makes life a bit simpler and makes people think of you as less creepy, especially those with bad memory, who when you reference something that happened 5mins before think your weird. But it has had it's payouts. Was the first one to wish a friend a happy birthday (with mostly everyone else but her close friends going "oh crap it's her birthday"), she appreciated that. Then there was this girl's favorite movie soundtrack she liked but no one ever got for her that i gave to her for christmas, about two or so months after the fact she mentioned it to me. Then of course i'm used as almost a "daily planner" for one person who one day will tell me what she'll be doing that week or something and then that day she'll forget about it and thank me for reminder her about it. I've experienced both halves of the memory thing, but the "bad"/"Creepy" side has been alot more prevalent, despite the replies to this topic.

I don't know exactly how I'm treating it(most likely as a didn't happen but did), I'm just really trying to read her. Sometimes it seems she's in to me, sometimes it just seems she sees me as a friend. I guess it's good that she doesn't hate me. She's one of about maybe three people I really ever feel comfortable around nowadays. A big stretch from freshmen year when just being in her presense would get me red and unable to talk to her. I may not be one of her best or "great" friends, but relatively speaking my list is a bit shorter and she is one of my good/great friends. If ever I'm feeling down, she'll try and make me smile. She's also invited me along with some of her better friends to some of her youth group activities. As to whether it just how she talks, she does sometimes use "sweety" when speaking to her best friends(girls). I've never heard her call a guy that. Nor have I heard her call another girl "honey". I don't really know. To me "honey" never pops into regular conversation, even with close friends. It may on occasion pop up on a longer-term couple. Just don't know if i should take any indication or meaning form it. As a slight update, we were able to talk for a good 30mins afterschool today. Somehow last summer('04) came up on how she tried calling me during the summer(through a directory thing we have for our school) and that the line was busy so she didn't try again. (I have dial-up, and I'm usually on it, or just not home) So then I suggested she should try my cell next time, and that lead me to give her my cell number as well an e-mail address. Oh yeah, her parents are very strict. Don't really allow her to "date"/go out, at least not without a responsible adult present. So asking her to just go somewhere is just out there. But I get the feeling if it wasn't for that, if I did ask her to go do something, she'd say yes. But whether she see it as "date" or just two friends hanging out would be the question.

Anyone know what to make sense of a girl's "diner speak/talk"? I don't know an official or unofficial name for this, but I myself have always said it's diner talk. (Maybe because I heard it was that or something, idk). Well if You don't know what this is, it's when a person uses words that you'd expect a diner waitress to use. This includes things like "sweety". This is more special in the fact that the person is not really speaking to a person they are going out with. While "sweety" and "honey" may be fine for a couple to use when referring to themselves, I think it's a bit odd when a person refers another person as such when they are no in a relationship. (I'm in high school by the way) Now the set-up: I've gotten used to the word "sweety" because a friend(a girl) would sometimes use it verbally or even in e-mails or IMs to me. But not all the time. I think when she did, she was happy or happy with/for me or just sympathized with me. I think when she didn't even use it once in a conversation I knew something might be wrong between us. Now this passed Saturday, I was hanging out with a just a couple of friend's at a person's house (as we were practicing for a competition, and taking breaks between that). At this point we'd had played foosball a couple of times. I had always been yellow but this time I was black, so I was a little confused(I had just finished eating, so I was a little out of it) when we (me and this other girl vs this other guy and girl) had scored, I moved the yellow counter instead of the black. They told me wrong side or something and then I went "oh, we're black". The girl on my side replied with something that had "honey" in it. I don't know her exact words as it caught me off guard some what, but I think it may have been something like "yeah of course honey". Right after she said that the guy said something like "honey? what?" but then at that moment my mom called my cell so I had to leave the table and didn't really hear the conversation that may have arisen from that. Then once i got off my cell, it was time to go practice again so I didn't get to play foosball again right there. I've had a crush on this girl for a long time, but she's usually been with someone (and she is kinda at the moment, but it doesn't seem like anything at the moment, more like the end of a relationship as he's supposedly not calling her sometimes and blah). I thought it was weird she called me "honey", as I don't believe anyone has ever called me that. The Friday a week before was the day before spring break and she actually gave me a hug(I don't usually get hugs from people so that was a bit odd and different), and that was the second time in two weeks as she had hugged me a Thursday a week before that. That was the first time she had hugged me since her birthday(which was the first and second time she ever did) about three months ago after I had given her a birthday present. (I had kinda looked like I had forgotten her birthday as I had baked her something, and had to wait until lunch while everyone else has said happy birthday to her and given her something in the morning. She hugged me when I gave it to her during lunch and then afterschool as a 'thanks' again) Um I think I've made this long enough. So, anyone have any insight into why she would call me "honey"? The optimist in me wants to say it was some kind of Freudian slip, but the pessimist in me is saying it means nothing. For the record, I've never heard her call another guy "honey", boyfriend or otherwise.

I think today was a rather good day. jane, her friend(the non-boyfriend one), and I just walked around the school and talked afterschool. And near the end of it this guy she tries to avoid came up and started talking to us. We were just talking about vacation and trips, and then her friend brought up this camping trip that Jane's youth group is doing. And then they both started talking about it and I got asked point blank again if I wanted to go, 'cept this time I was able to say yes. (The other guy was right there, and I know he wasn't asked). The past two days have been a bit weird in that they've been pretty good. Almost expecting something bad to happen. Does getting invited to these things any indication of anything? I normally don't get invited to do anything with anyone. Last school year year Jane invited me(we really didn't talk to each other then, as I was a bit nervous to talk to her, but we hung around the same people) to help her and her youth group the day after school ended to help disabled people have fun at an amusement park. (She was going out with a guy for a couple of weeks during this, but nothing too serious as I saw and found out). She only invited three other people who she's actually known for awhile from school to that. I know that was 6-7 months ago and doesn't really count towards anything today as people change over time. Then this year I did get invited to go out with a group of friends(which included Jane and her friend) to celebrate this girl's birthday(one with boyfriend) during the weekend, but it got canceled cause the girl had to help her older sister move that weekend. I usually don't try to read into anything. Well I guess that's kind of a lie. I might analyze just about everything but in the end just apply coincidence or just trying to be nice to events. Try not to give it much meaning so I don't get my hopes up too high..

Was what I meant to say. And the bathroom is on the way to class in that hallway so I don't believe she wanted to go on the other side of the building for that. I actually spent some time just talking to "Jane" today afterschool after she missed her bus. I usually stay afterschool, she asked if I was staying for anything in particular, I said no, and so we both just went to the gym. There were a few pauses cause we'd both run out of something to say. There 'd be a few seconds and then either her or me would ask the other something. Talked about school, what happened that day, and what we did over the thanksgiving break. Then when that was over with we hung outside of school waiting for her bus, again just talking but this time another guy came over. This is a guy who kinda creeps this girl out. He only came to say hello and goodbye basically. Then me and the girl were just talking about what she was doing over winter break and that on the 31st she's going to have a lock-in at her church and then she invited me to come. But then her bus came and I was just asking how a church lock-in worked so we both just said bye before I realized she had invited me to lock-in. The one with the boyfriend is really, really good friends with Jane. Her, jane, the other friend, and another girl are like best friends at school. I don't think I could ask her what Jane thinks of me. It's a bit complicated, but the one and only time i've ever told someone I liked this girl, the whole school(small middle school) found out after he yelled it at this other girl so she'd leave me alone. I mean that eventually led to me talking to this girl I like on the phone but overall I think I just got played. (She transferred school couple of weeks later, never really heard from her again. Also she just happened to be best friends in elementary with this girl who was crushing on me, but in middle school they didn't really talk or seem to. Somehow the girl got my number from the girl I was crushing on even though I thought they hated each other.)